If the Herald on Sunday actually felt the need to be responsible and report the truth and the whole truth...
Laws' ladies trade blows1. For starters - i am not Laws' lady. I am in a loving, stable, committed and long term relationship with a wonderful man and have been for a year. I did not date Laws last year. Debbie Brown - on the other hand - has just finished dragging her most recent partner - who happened to be a married man - though a court case.
2. The papers that i have been served do not allege that i defamed anyone. They are full of lies and denials but they do not allege defamation. I have never been taken to court over defamation and i am confident that i won't be this time either - because i have not lied.
3. We did not fall out over comments made on my blog. We fell out because i could not handle having the poison that is Debbie Brown in my life. I could not handle the suicide attempts over married men, the drunken behaviour, the terminal victim like mentality that she lives with, or her mental health issues. I would have liked to have known how to help Debbie with these issues - but i didn't - so i cut her out of my life in a form of self preservation.
4. I never made any comments that identified them prior to being served papers this week. I was not going to be bullied by these two and remove things from my blog that i had a right to write about.
5. I never claimed that Debbie Brown had a relationship with Laws. I did not make one comment when they were seen together. I couldn't care less who Laws is in a relationship with and my only concern re Debbie's relationships is that i hope she doesn't pick another married friend of mine. Debbie's harassment of me started long before she was ever seen out with Laws.
The Herald on Sunday should be ashamed of that lazy attempt at reporting.
Regardless of that though - i am glad that they have publicised this. More people will now read about it and see just how far one vindictive woman will go in order to damage the life of someone that she feels has rejected her.
This is the second court case that Madeleine Flannagan has represented Debbie Brown in - for free- since she became a lawyer in December. The first case was with a former partner of Debbie's. As Debbie was leaving the court after that case was finished she advised her last victim that she was gunning for me next. I received a phone call from that man warning me that she had said this.
Madeleine Flannagan is abusing her position of power by representing Debbie Brown for free- enabling her to continue to bully and harass people that do not want her in their lives.
Here is a list of the posts that i have done - starting from the beginning of this drama.
1. You are a translator - in this post i advise that i have received a warning letter to remove something from my blog from Simon Buckingham. What exactly he wants me to remove - i have no idea but he threatens to have my blog removed from the internet and have my right to be on the internet removed from me. I do not name Madeleine Flannagan or Debbie Brown in this post. I assume that they have enlisted the help of Simon Buckingham because he is cheap, Debbie probably knows him from Nzdating, and Madeleine cannot be her own lawyer. Considering i have never named these women, and had only written about them a couple of times in relation to things that had happened in my life and experiences that i had - in a very generic way that no one would have been able to identify them - i refused to remove anything i had written. Over the next couple of days i observe the amount of time Debbie is spending on my blog and write about this however i did not identify her.
2. I have just been served papers - I write about being served papers. I still do not name these women and instead refer to Debbie as the nickname that i have given her after she threatened me with a class action law suit several times - Erin Brokovich.
3 Don't be a Fool - 1 - After being up all night reading Debbie's psychotic lies - i finally name her. The lies in her affidavit that can so easily be proven to be lies upset me very much. The fact that Madeleine Flannagan - who is supposedly a Christian - would allow such lies to be filed in a sworn affidavit upset me. I came to the conclusion that i was being bullied because these two women knew that i do not have the means to defend myself. I show an example of the kind of comment that has been left on my blog non stop by Debbie over the past 18 months and how she has blamed her daughter for those comments. I provide an example of proof of the relationship that i had with Debbie's daughter and why i do not believe that her daughter was making those comments.
4. Lies number 1 and 2 - I decide that my only way to fight this - and for the truth to come out is to refute Debbie Brown and Madeleine Flannagan's allegations one by one - so i scanned parts of their affidavits and start proving that they are liars. I have included proof that Debbie Brown did threaten to slash someone's throat on a public blog, as well as the fact that i did not drink on the night in question and that anything i wrote in the blog post that she has assumed is about her - was true and correct - despite her lies denying this in a sworn affidavit.
5. Lie number 3 - this is the easiest lie of Debbie's to disprove. I never released any correspondence to the media. The media were unaware of any relationship until Laws made it public - and this was reported in the media at the time. Today's drama would suggest that i am not the one who is a media whore.
6. Lie number 4 - Debbie lies and implies that after i rejected her friend request on Facebook - that i sent an unsolicited email to her then partner (who she has since dragged through the court system as well thanks to her access to free lawyer Madeleine Flannagan) trying to break them up. That is absolutely false. She purposely omits the fact that he emailed me, that she is aware of that email, and all i did was respond saying that i did not agree with him cheating on his partner and i felt that Debbie was dangerous. That was and is my honest opinion.
7. Busy Day Ahead for Me - After waking up to 21 psychotic and abusive comments on my blog i decided to continue to defend myself against Debbie's harassment and bullying. I express my concern for the fact that the legal system can be used like this by a vindictive woman and her lawyer friend. I show a pattern of behaviour on Debbie Brown's part.
8 Finally - i express my relief at the prospect of cyber laws changing. Had i been able to go to the police regarding Debbie Brown's harassment of me 18 months ago - the issue would not have gotten to the stage that it got to this week.
Debbie Brown is a vindictive and nasty woman who has access to a free lawyer and is using that to further harass me because i could not handle having her drama in my life. Because of that rejection Debbie has not left me alone for the last 18 months. I have put up with constant abusive comments on my blog, fake facebook profiles stalking me, threatening phone calls, her attempting to resume our friendship then exploding with rage when i declined.
This is legal bullying and harassment.
No one has the right to tell me what i can and cannot write about on my blog when i am not naming anyone and am just writing about personal experiences.
Despite the fact that the Herald on Sunday have reported this in such an irresponsible and incorrect way - i am glad that they have reported it.
I will not spend time or money on this when i have 3 children to feed and my studies to concentrate on. That is what Debbie and Madeleine want and i am not going to give them what they want. The happier my life has gotten over the last 18 months - the more enraged Debbie has become. I will not allow her to have an impact on my education, my future, or my ability to put food on the table every night.
No one should have to put up with this kind of harassment. No one.
You are witnessing a very real threat to freedom of speech in New Zealand.
The. End.
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23 comments:
Kirsty, By emphasizing Jackie's past mistakes (ex- prostitute, drug addict etc) you appeal to the lowest common demoninator, and continue your papers slide into an area of journalism that I had assumed was in terminal decline, ( see the demise of the Sunday News and Truth newspapers, and further a field, News of the World, et al,) .. by choosing to bang out 300 odd words of sleaze and inaccurate gossip (Jackie's relationship with Laws ended in November 2010 not 2011) you missed the opportunity to explore in an intelligent way, current issues relating to defamation/freedom of speech within a social media context- which this case and others highlight.
On a more personal level there is a human cost to what you have written. Jackie has obviously made mistakes in her life- but instead of fixating on what she WAS, how about telling your readership what she IS now- a full time mother of 3 amazing kids, a successful, full time student, a recovered drug addict and a loving loyal partner?..
Kirsty, do you have any idea how hurtful it is for Jackie's family to read about her past once again? on mother's day?..is that what you went through journalism school for?..
In order for bullying to take place there has to be an imbalance of power, which there clearly is in this case.
Referring to you as an ex p addict and prostitute yet referring to Debbie Brown as an accountant - instead of a psychiatric patient and the ex of Antonie Dixon who chopped women's arms off is imbalanced reporting.
They reported what you were and ignored Debbie Brown's past.
The Herald have joined in on the bullying with this article. I would make a complaint to the press council if i was you.
Hi Jackie,
I also don't agree with the reporting in the New Zealand Herald. It's one sided in that it refers to you on what you were (ex-prostitute, former P addict), which has nothing to do with
the current situation. Nothing about Debbie's past though.
It is now clear to everyone who reads your blog that you have a vindictive bully on your hands.
My parents faced similar issues in the late 1990s when they wanted nothing to do with my aunt's boyfriend. Rather than just leave them alone and mind his own business, he went on a harrasment and bullying spree, looking for all sorts of skeletons in the their closets. He always gossips about others, yet if anyone says anything about him, even things he has already admitted to,threats of lawsuits are made. He has or had a lawyer friend who represents him for free in exchange for a few back scratches. Although I cannot prove it, I'm sure my parents are still being bullied and harassed by this thug to this day.
lol...far out,
first we have Natalie(sp),
now we have a Debbie....
forgive me, for laughin while reading about this
Anon 11:48
I will be making a complaint regarding Kirsty Wynn's and the HOS' reporting of this.
Mr Mister - I am sorry to hear of what your parents have gone through. It sounds very similar to what i have been going through for the past 18 months. While i did react to her insanity on the odd occasion i never named her on my blog and only wrote about experiences that i was having with an unnamed person. I have though - largely ignored her harassment.
When she was joined in this repulsive behaviour by Madeleine Flannagan and served me with legal papers i could no longer ignore it. Now the Herald on Sunday have joined in - but i won't back down and i won't give in to bullying or harassment.
I have a right to free speech just like everyone else in this country does. Not once had i defamed or harassed these two crazy individuals.
Debbie Brown is jealous of my happiness and trying to ruin it. My only focus is my education and my family and it is going to stay that way.
Fred - i always kind of knew that blogging attracted an element of society that is absolutely nuts but i did not realise the extent to which that insanity would start to affect my life.
Part of me wants to just forgive them and walk away and never write again. There other, more stubborn part wants to forgive them and keep doing my thing.
Like i said - there is a real threat to freedom of speech in this country going on right now and the Herald have completely ignored that.
Have been reading your blog for a couple of years and never commented until now. http://www.presscouncil.org.nz/
Do it Jacqui.
This is disgusting.
And keep smiling like you always do.
To the anonymous commenter that i did not publish just now - i will explain to you again that i will not be publishing any comments that refer to my partner, his qualifications, or his career. The fact that you even know that information explains your nastiness and bias.
Hopefully it sinks in this time.
Have a great day.
There is no such thing as freedom of speed on your blog when you publish "edited" versions of emails. You might find it hard to take this angle in court when people can easily print out your page to show how you only publish certain things to slant things the way you want them then act horrfied when anyone else (like the herald) don't publish yor version of events.
The only "editing" i have done is blanking out her other victim's names.
Anyone that could defend this psycho after all the proof that i have offered of her harassment and bullying of me has to be a misguided friend of hers or nuts as well.
It's ok. I understand. I spent time running around the internet defending her when i was her friend as well.
And i am not "horrified" at the Herald. I think they have given us a great example of lazy and sleazy journalism in not getting very obvious facts right - but i never said i was horrified.
I think other people have expressed disgust.
I have just expressed disbelief.
I would be spewing about this article if i was Debbie. It has just publicised her behaviour more by sending more people to my blog and i can guarantee that not one sane person would condone her actions.
I can't believe that Madeleine Flannagan has been stupid enough to get involved with this woman and her dramas
To the anonymous commenter that just referred to my partner AGAIN - i did no such thing as the accusations in your comment.
Who is this woman, where does she work, what are her contact details...if i did those things then after stalking me for so long you would surely have that information.
Considering Debbie Brown has spent the last two weeks searching that person's first name (which were the only detail i ever gave at the time) with every other word i the dictionary trying to find out who she is - i would be very surprised if you have that information.
Run back to Debbie and ask her. Be quick...cause i am waiting for your response.
Jackie you do realise that people can print your posts and past them on to lawyers before you remove them.
Who cares I have only removed - edited spelling mistakes or whatever - then resubmitted. Unlike some people - i don't say anything that i am ashamed of - other than typos. :-)
The silence is golden. I knew i would not get a response to the above comment.
I suspect i just dispelled another of Debbie Brown's lies - and allowed her to make a fool of the person sticking up for her.
What a shame.
Still waiting for that woman's details since i have been accused of publishing them.
What are they...i know that Debbie doesn't know them. Like i said above. She spent a week searching for them to no avail because never - not once did i publish them.
So bugger off with your lies.
I am even more convinced that the New Zealand Herald are full of shit after what i have read today. Thanks for the eye opener jacqueline.
Debbie Brown's most loyal commenter has just accused me of publishing the personal details of someone else last year. This person was only ever referred to by a first name. I did not even ever state if that was her real first name. Nor did i ever once publish anything that would have given any indication as to who that person was. No occupation. No last name. No contact details. No employer details...yet Debbie Brown has told her most loyal fan that i did.
I have asked you for those details because since you have stalked me so much that you have record of every other post that i have done then removed -surely you would have proof of what you now accuse me of.
The silence is golden. Proving Debbie Brown to be the liar that she is - is so easy.
Put up. Or Shut up.
I guess you chose to shut up.
I have read your blog for nearly 2 years Jackie and have on a number of occasions read posts then come back to see if there are any commments and blow me down the posts are gone. I know it is my word against yours but really Jackie as a christian you really shouldn't lie so much. :)
You are the only liar commenting in here.
You made false accusations towards me then when you couldn't provide the proof you just accuse me of being a liar.
You know why i was so confidant that you did not have that information...because i never published it. Not one identifying detail about her was published and you know that.
You have such a good stalker memory that you remember everything else i have posted but convienntly forget the details relating to your accusation.
You are the liar. Debbie Brown and Madeleine Flannagan are liars.
I have proven that time and time again.
Now bugger off nutter.
I know Debbie Brown and laughed when i saw her in the paper today. Now i am laughing even harder. I knew there would be more to this. From someone who she put through hell take my advise. The only thing you can do to get rid of her is ignore her. She will never stop while you are giving her attention and she will always be the victim. It doesnt matter how many lies you catch her in.
Anon 4:03
I know this.
I am closing the door on this drama now and will not be commenting any further. I had closed the door on this drama and moved on until this morning and i am going to do it again.
I have proven everything that i need to prove.
Debbie Brown gets not one more second of my attention. She can get her harassment order if that is what floats her boat but she won't have my attention while she is doing it.
Never once did i publish her name or anything else that would identify her prior to her serving me papers that were full of lies. I have every right to name someone that is harassing me with legal proceedings that are based on lies. I had done absolutely not one thing to Madeleine Flannagan or Debbie Brown to warrant legal proceedings. In fact - it was the opposite. I should have been taking them to court for harassment but instead i chose to try to ignore them.
That is all i have to say on this matter.
The end.
Jackie I would love to see you turn up to court to defend these charges against you, honestly these two underhanded slime bags will be laughed out of court. Hoping the rest of your evening is 'stalk' free :)
If i had money to waste on a decent lawyer - i would do it Sherrill.
The funniest thing about today though is that i have been receiving emails from other bloggers with links to their blog posts - blogging this saga. Are Madeleine Flannagan and Debbie Brown going to serve papers on all of them as well i wonder...
How stupid were they to go to the media about this...Now it doesn't matter what happens with my blog - it will still be all over the internet!
haha!
hi jac, i see you made the sun day news (paper) good on you for standing up for yourself, in which every way possible, you go girl. life hard without all that crap. I'm on your side, if we cant afford lawyers like the rich pricks, then you keep blogging your life and you will have the world on yourside.
keep your head high and keep on smiling, no one can bring you down but yourself. stay happy you are a wonderful person oxox
Debbie Brown is everything you say and more. I will email you some information that you will find very interesting and will probably help you with this joke of a legal problem.
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